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		<title>By: Paul Woodhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/blogs-the-new-pollution_317.html#comment-6168</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Woodhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s extremely difficult to track conversations when you keep getting messages saying that the server is too busy.

As you know, this isn&#039;t a problem that is exclusive to me, but to everyone currently using your service.

We use it because it serves a purpose. It also served that purpose infinitely better before the change to the &#039;new improved&#039; version.

The issue of the number of links changing every time you view them seems to have settled down.

We&#039;ll see how the next couple of months goes and wish you all the best in sorting everything out.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s extremely difficult to track conversations when you keep getting messages saying that the server is too busy.</p>
<p>As you know, this isn&#8217;t a problem that is exclusive to me, but to everyone currently using your service.</p>
<p>We use it because it serves a purpose. It also served that purpose infinitely better before the change to the &#8216;new improved&#8217; version.</p>
<p>The issue of the number of links changing every time you view them seems to have settled down.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll see how the next couple of months goes and wish you all the best in sorting everything out.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sifry</title>
		<link>http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/blogs-the-new-pollution_317.html#comment-6164</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sifry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Great post.  Sorry that we aren&#039;t providing you wit the kind of great service that you expect.  I&#039;m quite interested in hearing more about how we&#039;re letting you down, and what we can do to make things better for you.

We&#039;ve been putting a lot of time and money on building out a whole bunch of performance and scalability fixes in the next month or two, so I hope that you&#039;ll continue to see increased performance and accuracy from us...

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Great post.  Sorry that we aren&#8217;t providing you wit the kind of great service that you expect.  I&#8217;m quite interested in hearing more about how we&#8217;re letting you down, and what we can do to make things better for you.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve been putting a lot of time and money on building out a whole bunch of performance and scalability fixes in the next month or two, so I hope that you&#8217;ll continue to see increased performance and accuracy from us&#8230;</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Woodhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/blogs-the-new-pollution_317.html#comment-6137</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Woodhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate it when I write something remotely smart in my own comments and then it just vanishes for no apparent reason.

I hate it even more when I forget what I&#039;ve said.

Not to worry.

The disgruntled car chap is good. At least there are some folk left taking the time out to find a new blog once in a blue moon.

I used to write some great stuff too...honest.

At least now I know why my Scoblelizer live message alert thingy hasn&#039;t been bobbing up and down like a bride&#039;s nightie this week.

Not that I ever check it when it does. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate it when I write something remotely smart in my own comments and then it just vanishes for no apparent reason.</p>
<p>I hate it even more when I forget what I&#8217;ve said.</p>
<p>Not to worry.</p>
<p>The disgruntled car chap is good. At least there are some folk left taking the time out to find a new blog once in a blue moon.</p>
<p>I used to write some great stuff too&#8230;honest.</p>
<p>At least now I know why my Scoblelizer live message alert thingy hasn&#8217;t been bobbing up and down like a bride&#8217;s nightie this week.</p>
<p>Not that I ever check it when it does. <img src='http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: steven streight aka vaspers the grate</title>
		<link>http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/blogs-the-new-pollution_317.html#comment-6134</link>
		<dc:creator>steven streight aka vaspers the grate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 19:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still dealing with clients, or potential clients, who cling to their rusty, non-galvanized (sorry!) conventional static web sites.

When they visit a blog, they act like they&#039;re completely confused as to what&#039;s going on.

They, I suspect aren&#039;t used to INTERACTIVITY, comment posting, smart-mouthed Triumphalist Blogging (my invention a few seconds ago when I had a few seconds).

Robert Scoble, whom I like a lot, but scolded for all the freaking comment and abuse spam, has &quot;taken a break from blogging&quot;.

When a blogger &quot;takes a break&quot;, they nearly never return. Blog Burnout is on the rampage. Lovely.

I blog even better when no one visits, no one comments, no one invites me to conferences, and I get banned from sites. I thive on misguided hate directed at little old me, the Happy Hate-attracting Blogger from Halo Worldlessness.

Hey, Paul: check out my favorite new personal blogger, and check out his funny tagline:

Disgruntled Car Salesman

http://disgruntledcarsalesman.blogspot.com

...discovered by way of his posting a comment on my blog. How do these cool bloggers find me? Need to check my referer stats today.

I know you dislike sidebars, but not beer bars, but I have a new category for mine:

Triumphalist Blogger Honor Roll

&quot;Bloggers who speak their mind and don&#039;t care what you think.&quot;

that features Dvorak, Tinbasher, Omnamaste (Carrie Snell), Disgruntled Car Salesman, Voix de Michele, Ad Rants, and Dave Taylor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still dealing with clients, or potential clients, who cling to their rusty, non-galvanized (sorry!) conventional static web sites.</p>
<p>When they visit a blog, they act like they&#8217;re completely confused as to what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>They, I suspect aren&#8217;t used to INTERACTIVITY, comment posting, smart-mouthed Triumphalist Blogging (my invention a few seconds ago when I had a few seconds).</p>
<p>Robert Scoble, whom I like a lot, but scolded for all the freaking comment and abuse spam, has &#8220;taken a break from blogging&#8221;.</p>
<p>When a blogger &#8220;takes a break&#8221;, they nearly never return. Blog Burnout is on the rampage. Lovely.</p>
<p>I blog even better when no one visits, no one comments, no one invites me to conferences, and I get banned from sites. I thive on misguided hate directed at little old me, the Happy Hate-attracting Blogger from Halo Worldlessness.</p>
<p>Hey, Paul: check out my favorite new personal blogger, and check out his funny tagline:</p>
<p>Disgruntled Car Salesman</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://disgruntledcarsalesman.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://disgruntledcarsalesman.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>&#8230;discovered by way of his posting a comment on my blog. How do these cool bloggers find me? Need to check my referer stats today.</p>
<p>I know you dislike sidebars, but not beer bars, but I have a new category for mine:</p>
<p>Triumphalist Blogger Honor Roll</p>
<p>&#8220;Bloggers who speak their mind and don&#8217;t care what you think.&#8221;</p>
<p>that features Dvorak, Tinbasher, Omnamaste (Carrie Snell), Disgruntled Car Salesman, Voix de Michele, Ad Rants, and Dave Taylor.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Woodhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/blogs-the-new-pollution_317.html#comment-6133</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Woodhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 16:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane:

I do appreciate the mention and I do appreciate you taking the time to pop on here to comment.

I sometimes think there&#039;s too much of an &#039;us vs them&#039; siege mentality when it comes down to blogging and the media.

As you might be able to tell, the above piece was just rattled off, but then a little conversation develops to embellish the original piece.

I do get frustrated at the UK blogosphere and maybe I should be more mindful that the majority of readers wouldn&#039;t know or care a jot about either the quantity nor the quality of blogs.

In that respect, it is an interesting &#039;peg&#039; and maybe a few more people might be a little bit more enlightened than they were. No bad thing at all.

I do read The Guardian&#039;s weblogs quite regularly, and I I wouldn&#039;t have you in the clueless category by any stretch of the imagination. I was thinking more of certain other publications that have asked me some terribly lame questions. 

Granted, they&#039;d probably claim that it was me who gave them some very lame answers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane:</p>
<p>I do appreciate the mention and I do appreciate you taking the time to pop on here to comment.</p>
<p>I sometimes think there&#8217;s too much of an &#8216;us vs them&#8217; siege mentality when it comes down to blogging and the media.</p>
<p>As you might be able to tell, the above piece was just rattled off, but then a little conversation develops to embellish the original piece.</p>
<p>I do get frustrated at the UK blogosphere and maybe I should be more mindful that the majority of readers wouldn&#8217;t know or care a jot about either the quantity nor the quality of blogs.</p>
<p>In that respect, it is an interesting &#8216;peg&#8217; and maybe a few more people might be a little bit more enlightened than they were. No bad thing at all.</p>
<p>I do read The Guardian&#8217;s weblogs quite regularly, and I I wouldn&#8217;t have you in the clueless category by any stretch of the imagination. I was thinking more of certain other publications that have asked me some terribly lame questions. </p>
<p>Granted, they&#8217;d probably claim that it was me who gave them some very lame answers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Perrone</title>
		<link>http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/blogs-the-new-pollution_317.html#comment-6132</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Perrone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi paul

Sorry, I&#039;d meant to warn you that you were getting a mention in my story but I was working to an extremely short deadline. 

Your point about the selection of blogs mentioned in the piece is fair. I toyed with talking about Tom Reynolds, Zinnia Cyclamen and various other people but in the end space got the better of me - and the reason I mentioned Salam Pax and Belle is that they, for most people, will be the only bloggers they&#039;ve ever heard of, and so they may provide a route into the story.

I&#039;ve been meaning to write a follow up Newsblog post about Technorati&#039;s definition of &quot;active&quot; blogs, and the fact that the number of &quot;dedicated&quot; bloggers is probably still very small. I don&#039;t think one post every three months constitutes active - once a week or once a fortnight, yes.  

I know you and Adriana aren&#039;t interested in the stats, but it provided a useful &quot;news peg&quot; that introduced a few more readers to the concept of blogs, which must be a good thing, right? At Guardian Unlimited we also write a lot of stuff about non-stats blog issues - check out our special report at http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/weblogs.

As always, I really appreciate readers&#039; feedback, so feel free to email me direct if you have any comments on this or anything else I write. My email&#039;s jane.perroneAT guardian.co.uk

jane perrone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi paul</p>
<p>Sorry, I&#8217;d meant to warn you that you were getting a mention in my story but I was working to an extremely short deadline. </p>
<p>Your point about the selection of blogs mentioned in the piece is fair. I toyed with talking about Tom Reynolds, Zinnia Cyclamen and various other people but in the end space got the better of me &#8211; and the reason I mentioned Salam Pax and Belle is that they, for most people, will be the only bloggers they&#8217;ve ever heard of, and so they may provide a route into the story.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to write a follow up Newsblog post about Technorati&#8217;s definition of &#8220;active&#8221; blogs, and the fact that the number of &#8220;dedicated&#8221; bloggers is probably still very small. I don&#8217;t think one post every three months constitutes active &#8211; once a week or once a fortnight, yes.  </p>
<p>I know you and Adriana aren&#8217;t interested in the stats, but it provided a useful &#8220;news peg&#8221; that introduced a few more readers to the concept of blogs, which must be a good thing, right? At Guardian Unlimited we also write a lot of stuff about non-stats blog issues &#8211; check out our special report at <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/weblogs" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/weblogs</a>.</p>
<p>As always, I really appreciate readers&#8217; feedback, so feel free to email me direct if you have any comments on this or anything else I write. My email&#8217;s jane.perroneAT guardian.co.uk</p>
<p>jane perrone</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Woodhouse</title>
		<link>http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/blogs-the-new-pollution_317.html#comment-6126</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Woodhouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right.

I should know infintely better than to simply be contrarian, or controversial, or ungrateful.

I always feel slightly uncomfortable with the MSN&#039;s potrayal of blogging as they&#039;re wanting for it to be a quantifiable phenomenon.

My dealings with media types so far prove that, on the whole, their skills lie in throwing a coherent story together from something they know very little about - certain folks excluded.

I suppose it doesn&#039;t matter how many blogs are started and then given up up every nanosecond - it&#039;s why they&#039;re started in the first place that&#039;s important.

I suppose I do long for the day when nobody bats an eyelid about anything blog-related and we have a nice little place on the internet where people are honestly conversing about all manner of stuff.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right.</p>
<p>I should know infintely better than to simply be contrarian, or controversial, or ungrateful.</p>
<p>I always feel slightly uncomfortable with the MSN&#8217;s potrayal of blogging as they&#8217;re wanting for it to be a quantifiable phenomenon.</p>
<p>My dealings with media types so far prove that, on the whole, their skills lie in throwing a coherent story together from something they know very little about &#8211; certain folks excluded.</p>
<p>I suppose it doesn&#8217;t matter how many blogs are started and then given up up every nanosecond &#8211; it&#8217;s why they&#8217;re started in the first place that&#8217;s important.</p>
<p>I suppose I do long for the day when nobody bats an eyelid about anything blog-related and we have a nice little place on the internet where people are honestly conversing about all manner of stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: David St Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/blogs-the-new-pollution_317.html#comment-6115</link>
		<dc:creator>David St Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Aug 2005 04:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

We have not even begun to see the flood of new bloggers yet, and it doesn&#039;t matter that most will drop by the wayside. What does matter is that the barriers are down for now and talented people like yourself are availing themselves of the opportunity to publish their thoughts to a planet-wide audience. 

Just keep blogging about issues that you are passionate about and all will be well. I don&#039;t expect you will have a problem with that. As long as you are authentic and say meaningful things, you will be quoted by the Guardian and other media outlets because of your content. Might as well enjoy it!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>We have not even begun to see the flood of new bloggers yet, and it doesn&#8217;t matter that most will drop by the wayside. What does matter is that the barriers are down for now and talented people like yourself are availing themselves of the opportunity to publish their thoughts to a planet-wide audience. </p>
<p>Just keep blogging about issues that you are passionate about and all will be well. I don&#8217;t expect you will have a problem with that. As long as you are authentic and say meaningful things, you will be quoted by the Guardian and other media outlets because of your content. Might as well enjoy it!  <img src='http://www.butlersheetmetal.com/tinbasherblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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